‘We Want Them Infected’: Trump Official Had the Right Idea, Demanded Burden of Infections Be Borne by Those Not At Risk

Heroic and correct. Too bad he wasn't heeded

Editor’s note: The COVID Rouge regime press in a half-hearted attempt to make this into a scandal. In reality, Alexander had the right idea and it is unfortunate Trump did not heed his recommendations. A virus circulates until the pool of susceptibles has been sufficiently depleted. No lockdown has been shown to reduce deaths or even slow the circulation. Either way, somebody has to bear the burden of infections, and if the goal is to reduce the death toll, then that burden ought to be shifted as much as possible to those not at risk.


A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a “herd immunity” approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, [which they were anyway] according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO.

“There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD,” then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials.

“Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk….so we use them to develop herd…we want them infected…” Alexander added.

“It may be that it will be best if we open up and flood the zone and let the kids and young folk get infected” in order to get “natural immunity…natural exposure,” Alexander wrote on July 24 to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Caputo and eight other senior officials. Caputo subsequently asked Alexander to research the idea, according to emails obtained by the House Oversight Committee’s select subcommittee on coronavirus.

Alexander also argued that colleges should stay open to allow Covid-19 infections to spread, lamenting in a July 27 email to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield that “we essentially took off the battlefield the most potent weapon we had…younger healthy people, children, teens, young people who we needed to fastly [sic] infect themselves, spread it around, develop immunity, and help stop the spread.”

Alexander was a top deputy of Caputo, who was personally installed by President Donald Trump in April to lead the health department’s communications efforts. Officials told POLITICO that they believed that when Alexander made recommendations, he had the backing of the White House.

“It was understood that he spoke for Michael Caputo, who spoke for the White House,” said Kyle McGowan, a Trump appointee who was CDC chief of staff before leaving this summer. “That’s how they wanted it to be perceived.”

Senior Trump officials have repeatedly denied that herd immunity — a concept advocated by some conservatives as a tactic to control Covid-19 by deliberately exposing less vulnerable populations in hopes of re-opening the economy — was under consideration or shaped the White House’s approach to the pandemic. “Herd immunity is not the strategy of the U.S. government with regard to coronavirus,” HHS Secretary Alex Azar testified in a hearing before the House coronavirus subcommittee on Oct. 2.

In his emails, Alexander also spent months attacking government scientists and pushing to shape official statements to be more favorable to President Donald Trump.

For instance, Alexander acknowledges in a May 30 email that a draft statement from the CDC about how Covid-19 was disproportionately affecting minority populations was “very accurate,” but he warned HHS and CDC communications officials that “in this election cycle that is the kind of statement coming from CDC that the media and Democrat [sic] antagonists will use against the president.” The problems were “due to decades of democrat neglect,” Alexander alleged.

Alexander also appeared to acknowledge that the White House’s own push to let states wind down their Covid-19 restrictions was leading to a spike in cases.

“There is a rise in cases due to testing and also simultaneously due to the relaxing of restrictions, less social distancing,” Alexander wrote in a July 24 email. “We always knew as you relax and open up, cases will rise.”

The emails represent an unusual window on the internal deliberations of the Trump administration, and the tensions between political appointees like Alexander — a part-time professor at a Canadian university — and staff members in health agencies. On Sept. 16, HHS announced that Alexander would be leaving the department, just days after POLITICO first reported on his efforts to shape the CDC’s famed Morbidity and Mortality and Weekly Reports and pressure government scientist Anthony Fauci from speaking about the risks of Covid-19 to children.

In a statement, an HHS spokesperson said that Alexander’s demands for herd immunity “absolutely did not” shape department strategy.

“Dr. Paul Alexander previously served as a temporary Senior Policy Advisor to the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs and is no longer employed at the Department,” the spokesperson said.

Alexander did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Caputo, who took medical leave the same day that Alexander left the department, has referred previous inquiries to HHS.

The email cache provided a real-time look at the administration’s deliberations as the Covid-19 crisis first began to rebound during the summer.

“So the bottom line is if it is more infectiouness [sic] now, the issue is who cares?” Alexander wrote in a July 3 email to the health department’s top communications officials. “If it is causing more cases in young, my word is who cares…as long as we make sensible decisions, and protect the elderely [sic] and nursing homes, we must go on with life….who cares if we test more and get more positive tests.”

“How can this be researched and proven true or false?” Caputo asked Alexander in one July 25 email exchange, after Alexander had emailed Hahn and nine top communications officials across HHS and FDA about the value of herd immunity.

Alexander wrote back with data that he said he’d pulled from several studies, including a link to a June 30 Quanta Magazine article about the “tricky math” of herd immunity.

“I did not want to look like a nut ball and if as they think and as I think this may be true … several hard hit areas may have hit heard [sic] at 20% like NYC,” Alexander added. “[T]hat’s my argument….why not consider it?”

The health department has worked to distance itself from Alexander since his mid-September departure, and several Trump appointees said that Alexander was often isolated during his roughly six-month stint advising department officials.

“His rants had zero impact on policy and communications,” a senior administration official insisted. “Caputo enabled him to opine, but people pushed back and it even got to a point where Caputo told him to stop sending the emails.”

But McGowan, the former CDC chief of staff, said that Alexander was effective at delaying the famed Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports and watering down guidance that came from his agency.

“He absolutely put pressure on the CDC on different guidance documents, on MMWRs,” McGowan said. “He wanted to change MMWRs that were already posted, which is just outrageous.”

While McGowan said that even though agency officials fended off Alexander’s demands to edit the morbidity and mortality reports, “it’s the type of political meddling that delayed guidance, delayed MMWRs from getting them out as quickly as possible to be effective,” McGowan added.

Source: Politico

9 Comments
  1. ke4ram says

    There is nothing wrong with mass immunity. (Sorry,,, I don’t use the word herd) Happens every year with the flu and colds. Of course this year there is no flu,,, it’s all Sars 2 according to CDC.

  2. Ken Wiltshire says

    That’s how the flu runs. One virus is overwhelmingly predominate for that season. I don’t know anyone tested, who tested positive, who were positive for anything else than Covid. I have two daughters who are medical people, first responders and work in the same hospital. Anyone coming in with the flu is TREATED for Covid.

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  4. Ken Wiltshire says

    I’m in my 70’s and we’ve had a flu season every year of my life. Some of them were pretty bad. But never have I seen a season handled like this one. (Massive testing, respirators, induced coma’s masks etc.) Ive had the flu at least 30 times in my life. I came down with covid in August. Stayed home, had chicken soup, and several teas, some Sardines etc. IT WAS JUST THE FLU. I have younger relatives who went to the hospital out of fear. They tell me now, it was the worst mistake they ever made. They were in for almost six weeks and almost died. We did a lot of praying. They had trakes in their throats, and now have bed sores you can put a grapefruit into, (Their words not mine).

    1. ke4ram says

      How do you know you came down with Covid? The PCR or antibody test? Doctor said so?

      1. Ken Wiltshire says

        That’s how the flu runs. One virus is overwhelmingly predominate for
        that season. I don’t know anyone tested, who tested positive, who were
        positive for anything else than Covid. I have two daughters who are
        medical people, first responders and work in the same hospital. Anyone
        coming in with the flu is TREATED for Covid.

        1. ke4ram says

          Your friends are indeed lucky to be alive. Hospitals are paid to diagnose Covid regardless. Medicare pays $13,000 just for diagnosing Covid,,, pays another $30,000 if put on a ventilator.

          The PCR test is worse than useless for detecting infection of anything. Was not designed for that and its inventor Kary Mullis said so. He died last year of a supposed heart attack.

          He had problems with Fauci due to them using it to detect HIV infection claiming it brought on AIDS when in fact the medicine AZT was the culprit. Deaths dropped off radically after they stopped using it. Mullis said that Fauci didn’t know nothing about anything.

          They did the same thing with his test then as they’re doing today. Back then though he was fighting them.

          1. Ken Wiltshire says

            “Supposed Heart attack”, I like that. Jim Garrison, the man who was investigating the Kennedy assassination, within two years his twenty top witnesses died, and all of them died of either car accidents, suicide or (wait for it) heart attack. Oh I’m sorry, I don’t want to spread conspiracy theories. Just forget everything I said.

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