US Navy to Form a Second China-Centered Fleet to Encircle China From the South

The 1st Fleet would be based in Singapore or West Australia, opposite of the 7th Fleet in Japan

Imagine if China had just one US-centered fleet

The US Navy is moving forward with a plan to add a numbered fleet to the Indo-Pacific as part of its efforts to counter China in the region. The plan would resurrect the First Fleet, which was in operation from 1945 to 1973.

The “administrative requirements” to recommission the First Fleet “are in the final stages of coordination,” Capt. Jereal Dorsey, a spokesman for Navy Secretary Kenneth Braithwaite, told Stars and Stripes. Dorsey said Braithwaite is working with other US military chiefs to ensure the Navy maintains “maritime dominance in an era of great power competition.”

Braithwaite first mentioned the idea during a speech on November 17th. He said the US wants to place a new fleet in the “crossroads between the Indian and the Pacific Oceans” to “have an Indo-Pacom footprint.”

The US Navy frequently sails warships into the South China Sea to challenge Beijing’s claims to the waters. The ships deployed to make these provocative maneuvers usually come from the Seventh Fleet, which is based in Japan. As Braithwaite commented, “We can’t just rely on the Seventh Fleet in Japan.”

Braithwaite floated Singapore as a possible location to base the new fleet. Some analysts believe housing a new permanent US base in Singapore is unlikely, as the Southeast Asian country would not want to appear to take a side in the growing US-China rivalry. Another possible home for the new fleet is Western Australia.

A former Australian defense official told Stars and Stripes that housing the new fleet in Western Australia was the “obvious” choice. “The obvious location for the fleet’s home port is Cockburn Sound in Perth alongside the Australian naval base HMAS Stirling,” said Ross Babbage, a former Australian assistant defense secretary.


  1. Melville Pouwels says

    move them on…put them in SLOMO’s back yard…better still, the spratley isl.

  2. Saint Jimmy (Russian American) says

    I think “mahmood” or whatever he calls himself is a troll. Probably UK 77th Brigade of gay butt fucker keyboard nazis.

    Hey Mahmood. I rogered your sister while feeding your parents raw pork.

    1. h5mind says

      He’s a troll. He’s here to get us talking about anything other than the subject at hand. They always put their profile settings to ‘Private’. Report and block.

      1. Saint Jimmy (Russian American) says

        Thanks. I thought so.

  3. disqus_3BrONUAJno says

    What will the Aussies do when the oil slicks arrive on their shores?

  4. disqus_3BrONUAJno says

    China: A Cold Shower
    It’s only a lump. It will probably go away.
    FRED REED • NOVEMBER 29, 2020

    Fred Reed Archive – The Unz Review

    In a sort of distributed Ouija board enterprise, intellectuals these days predict the likely evolution of relations between China and America. These authorities do not wallow in consistency. China will take over the world. Alternatively, China will collapse because of a surfeit of men, because the different linguistic regions will become independent, because their debt bubble will explode, because the Chinese can’t “innovate,” and because the population is aging and there won’t be enough workers. And of course, the American military will remain regnant over the planet and nearby galactic space. The US will always stay ahead. Or it won’t. This seems to cover the basses.
    Well, maybe. But if you watch what the Chinese are actually doing, you may get the impression that China is largely ignoring the American military and letting the US spend itself to death while Beijing focuses on commerce, business, R-and-D, commerce, the economy, education, technology, and more commerce. You might additionally get the idea that China is a confident, well-governed, energetic people on a roll and doing quite well in the inventive department. The snippets below may support this impression of technical and economic vitality.

    The future? An asleep thought (I presume this is the opposite of “woke”): demographics is destiny. America draws its scientists and engineers from roughly 200,000,000 STEM-capable whites. Blacks and Latinos contribute, if not negligibly, then almost so. China depends on a billion STEM-capable Han Chinese. These are the people who dominate America’s elite technical high schools and universities. Thus, it can potentially put five times as many scientists and engineers to work on tech work. As America’s schools deteriorate under the assault of social-justice warriors, China expands its already-rigorous schooling. Add that psychometricians put the East Asian IQ about five points higher than that of Eurowhites. Thus, many more and somewhat smarter STEM people from demanding universities against fewer and less intelligent from inferior schools. Then add stable, focused government versus rule by chaos. Arguably, massive Chinese technological superiority might seem likely.

    Increasingly America does not compete with China, but strongarms it because it cannot compete. For example, in Five G China is ahead in technology, manufacturing capacity, and turnkey systems. Unable to produce an equivalent product, Washington banned Huawei Five G in the US and has twisted arms to keep countries that it controls from using Huawei. Seeing that Huawei had very attractive smartphones that would have competed with Apple, it banned these also. What America can’t do, it seeks to keep anybody else from doing.

    WSJ: “US vs. China in Five G: The Battle Isn’t Even Close

    HONG KONG—By most measures, China is no longer just leading the U.S. when it comes to 5G. It is running away with the game. China has more 5G subscribers than the U.S., not just in total but per capita. It has more 5G smartphones for sale, and at lower prices, and it has more-widespread 5G coverage. Connections in China are, on average, faster than in the U.S., too…By year’s end, China will have an estimated 690,000 5G base stations—boxes that blast 5G signals to consumers—up and running across the country .”

    Techies can argue C band versus millimeter waves but I will bet that the Chinese, nothing if not commercially agile, will have Five G up and running in factories and the IoT and everywhere else while American pols rattle on about how China is an Existential Threat and the Pentagon needs more money for Space Command and diversity is more important than schooling anyway.

    The shifting balance may already be visible. For example, America used to make superb aircraft such as the SR-71 and the F-16. Now it has the F-35, an engineering horror. The Boeing 737 MAX, its flagship product, has been grounded internationally because of poor engineering, second-rate software, and corporate lying about both.

    America invented the microcircuit, and once dominated its manufacture. Today, American companies cannot make the seven nanometer chips now used in high-end telephones, and certainly not the five nanometer chips now coming online. Neither can China. Both countries buy them from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, TSMC, Interestingly, the Taiwanese are genetically and culturally Chinese. Washington has strongarmed TSMC into ceasing to sell to Huawei—the US still can’t make high end chips. Recently it strongarmed TSMC into agreeing to build a semiconductor fab in Arizona. Because America can’t.

    Then there is TikTok, a hugely popular Chinese video app that threatened to break America’s lock on social media. Unable to compete, Washington decided simply to confiscate it on grounds that it might be used to spy on Americans. (Chinese intelligence is deeply interested in your daughter’s video of her cat.)

    Parenthetically, technology seems to be shifting toward East Asia, with America being less ahead in things in which it is ahead and behind in others. Did I mention demographics?

    “COMAC’s Hydrogen Fuel Test Plane Completes Ten Flights”
    Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China. Airlines are looking hard at hydrogen as a replacement for petroleum with no carbon emission.

    China chooses landing site for its Tianwen-1 Mars rover. Whether the lander, currently en route, will land or crash and burn remains to be seen—it is China’s first time out, so to speak. In either case, that the country, forty years ago arguably the poorest in the world and thinking that making pencils was high-tech, has built a Mars lander is, well, weird.

    “Electric planes closer to reality with China’s first flight”
    “Four-seater electric aircraft makes first flight in north-eastern Chinese city of Shenyang”

    Good for 180 miles, say the Chinese, expect more with improvements in batteries. Intended for short-haul flights, deliveries.

    “China to build world’s longest underwater high-speed rail tunnel”
    China probably leads the world, and certainly leads the US, in civil engineering. With 20,000 miles of slow high-speed rail (180 mph) testing on fast maglev high-speed rail, (360 mph) the Three Gorges Dam, and the astonishing Daxing airport at Beijing, just opened. In America, infrastructure ages, trains look like something from a Fifties movie, transportation deteriorates as all the money goes to the military. Since the US doesn’t do much civil engineering, and hasn’t for many years, it would probably have to hire foreign firms should it decide to modernize. (See TSMC above.)

    An interesting aspect of China’s use of technology is its understanding of the virtue of universality. In America if I want to communicate with someone I recently met, I have to determine whether we both have Facetime, or WhatsApp, or Skype, or Facebook, or this or that. Each of these does some things but not all things. Figuring it all out is a nuisance. In China, everybody, his dog, and all their downstream progeny have WeChat, which does everything that the American programs do, and then some. It greatly simplifies life.

    The same is true of payments. Suppose that you and I go on a pub crawl late at night and end up betting on a bar fight. My guy loses. How do I pay you a hundred bucks? Cash? Don’t have it. Check? Don’t have one with me, and you would have to go to a bank to cash it. ATM? Late at night in a probably dangerous city. And so on. With WeChat Pay or Alipay, my phone gives the money to your phone in perhaps as much as two minutes. In China, four of five transactions are by mobile app. It works, and is fantastically convenient, because everybody has one or the other, and they are universally accepted.

    ”Beijing Becomes Second Chinese City to Achieve Full Five G Coverage”
    Those who follow China soon notice that when Beijing needs to decide something, it does, without fifteen years of talking, congressional infighting, and interminable lawsuits. When it decides that something is important, it does it. Right now. Commercially, the Chinese are quick and cutthroat. They have been called the Jews of Asia. And only a billion of them.

    “Beijing powers up first domestically-built nuclear reactor, construction of 6 more underway at home & abroad”
    “Hualong One (HPR 1000) is the 3rd-generation nuclear power brand to which China has exclusive intellectual property rights.“

    Washington tries to cripple Chinese technological advance by denying access to intellectual property, driving Beijing to design its own, thus creating a competitor for American firms.

    “China Tops 110 Million Five G Users in Less Than a year”

    “China Replaces Russian Engine in J-10C Jet With Locally-made WS-10 Taihang”
    “The WS-10 Taihang is China’s first high-performance, high-thrust turbofan engine with intellectual property rights, Chinese Central Television reported.” (The J-10 is a fighter plane.)

    A serious weakness of Chinese technology has been the inability to make jet engines. It still can’t make engines for airliners. Yet they advance. “Intellectual property rights” matter because Washington will do anything it can to cripple the development of a country of which it is mortally terrified.

    “China rolls out Long March 5 rocket for Chang’e 5 moon sample-return mission launch”
    Impressive engineering, at least if it works, but not revolutionary. What is impressive is that so many tech advances come rapidly.

    Lenovo ranks No. 1 with most supercomputers on Top500 List
    Chinese firm.

    How Does China’s Digital Yuan Work?
    Various countries are toying with the idea of digital currency, but China seems most advanced, with several cities now in large-scale trials. Payments will be by mobile phone, with which the Chinese are familiar. It will not be a cryptocurrency, will not use blockchain, and will not require a bank account. This would make it appealing to the billions around the world who have smartphones but no bank account, and would tie them into a sort of distributed virtual China. Transfers will be instantaneous, avoiding the delays of the American-dominated SWIFT system and, at least potentially, allow bypassing of American sanctions. The downside will be vulnerability to detailed surveillance by China. For most people, to judge by online experience, convenience will outweigh concerns over privacy.

    The digital yuan is typically Chinese in approach. Beijing decides to do something, figures out how, tests it and, if it works, runs with it. Boddaboom, boddabing, done. America would spend thirty years arguing, Wall Street banks would bribe congress to get control, different companies would squabble over standards, the ACLU would wade in about disparate impact, and conservatives would worry that the digital dollar might contain microchips to make them into communist slaves. (Wait. Maybe it’s vaccines that have the chips to make communist slaves.)

    Much more speculative: suppose I go to Cancun, write a story on contract to Xinhua,email it to them, and payment in digital yuan appears in my phone. Being distracted, I might forget to report this to IRS. Let us say that hotels and stores serving Chinese tourists, who are getting thick on the ground, accept digital yuan. I would then be part of an ecosystem opaque to and independent of the US government.

    Wilder still: Say that China sends five thousand workers to Zimbabwe to build a railroad, pays them in digital yuan that they can spend in a large company store. Local merchants, wanting some of the lucre, begin accepting the currency and Zimbabwean banks, sensing gravy, turn it into whatever Zimbabwe uses for money, for a cut. It becomes a de facto local currency as it is stable and usable outside of the country. The government might even decide to make it the, or a, national currency since it would be (a) reliable and not inflatable and (b) out from under American control.

    But this may be delusional. And anyway, I am sure the Chinese haven’t thought of it.

    Xi sends congratulatory letter on success of 10,000-meter sea trial of manned submersible Fendouzhe
    That’s 33,000 feet. This is not Guatemalan engineering. A country that has the technology, money, and curiosity to undertake such projects is likely to be tough competition. China can afford it because it has a for-profit economy while America runs a huge trade deficit and debases the coinage by printing money to support a military empire.

    World’s Biggest Ultra-High Voltage Line Powers Up Across China
    (Bloomberg) –” State Grid Corp. of China has started up the world’s longest and most-powerful ultra-high voltage power line from its far northwest to the heavily populated east…The 1,100-kV direct-current Changji-to-Guquan project stretches 2,046 miles… The project… was approved in December 2015 and construction started the next month”

    Stories of this sort are not sexy, except maybe to power engineers, but they are common in China and embody a lot of technology. Twelve gigawatts. Another one, kind of techy: “A libaba On The Bleeding Edge Of RISC-V With XT910.” Certainly interesting, possibly important, but too long to go into here.

    Alibaba On The Bleeding Edge Of RISC-V With XT910
    It was just over a year ago that the RISC-V Foundation, the group shepherding the chip architecture in what over…

    All anecdotal, but enough anecdotes become a statistic, enough points a picture. Nuff said.

    1. Czar of defenestration says

      Everybody stopped reading after China. Gfy stain.

      1. ZhongHua says

        Pathetic whites can’t handle reality

  5. chris/irish says

    because why? gotta convince those gullible virus sheeple china is a threat.

  6. mehmood mayet says

    White females must be targeted in the event of a race war . Their vaginas must be thoroughly rogered till kingdom come

    1. Saint Jimmy (Russian American) says

      What a strange comment. Please begin your jolly rogering with the Clinton family.

      1. mehmood mayet says

        Strange race ,the Whiteys .

        Hilary is famed for lusting after female Vaginas and BBC, Shameless white skank !

        1. Saint Jimmy (Russian American) says

          Hey Mahmood. I rogered your sister while feeding your parents raw pork.

          1. mehmood mayet says

            Fucking is hard work for the Whitey . it is for this reason that the White Skanks lust after BBC.

            Whitey ,with his one inch dick, is only good for wanking !

            1. Saint Jimmy (Russian American) says

              UK 77th brigade faggot.

    2. Jan Dzik says

      shit dark yellow races are always after white women

      1. h5mind says

        The guy’s a shill. Report and block. Click on screen name- they always have their profile and comments set to ‘Private’.

      2. mehmood mayet says

        No .More like white females lusting after BBC

      3. mehmood mayet says

        White pussy is for public service .

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