Before Green-Lighting Erdogan’s Offensive Against Them Trump Got Kurds to Dismantle Their Fortifications

SOB par excellence

Despite accompanying his order that US troops move away from Syrian-Turkish border with vague talk about ending America’s involvement in ‘Middle East’s wars’ (most of which can ultimately be traced back to having been started, or helped started, by the US) Trump hasn’t actually ordered a US withdrawal from Syria, nor has he ended any war yet. In fact he has escalated just about every confrontation he inherited from Obama:

  • He intensified the bombing of Afghanistan and dispatched 5,000 extra troops,
  • he intensified the drone war in Somalia,
  • he has stuck with the Saudis in Yemen even as it has become more and more embarassing to do so, and up to the point of defying Congress
  • he tore up the Iran nuclear deal and started an economic siege of that country,
  • he sent cruise missiles against Syria twice, something Obama balked at,
  • he radically intensified economic siege and coup efforts in Venezuela,
  • he upped the arms to Ukraine and,
  • he tore up nuclear limitation treaties with Russia, and enacted additional sanctions.
  • he switched support to UAE/Saudi-backed Haftar in Libya helping fuel a flare up of fighting in a stalemated war.

The only two confrontations where he has been a moderating influence are:

  • On North Korea, but for which he has nothing to show for except a few photographs from the DMZ and,
  • he ended CIA aid to Syrian Islamist rebels, albeit the US was already reducing its level of involvement with them before he entered office (he did speed it up however).

Americans have no business waging a regime-change war on Damascus or stationing tripwire troops in eastern Syria in order to deny it to the Syrian government. However as long as they are doing that (and they still are) then the fact they had also taken upon themselves the role the Syrian army would have otherwise been performing in keeping Syrian territory safe from the Neo-Ottoman Turks was actually a good thing. That did not justify US presence there, but it made it slightly less intolerable. Now Trump has eliminated the one good secondary function the American troops were performing and made them into a fully negative force.

Imagine a police force that is harassing and beating you on every step, and also grabs your guns making you more vulnerable to criminals, but nonetheless at least attempts an investigation of sorts when you suffer a burglarly. Imagine that force then stops doing the one good thing they were doing before, but stays exactly the same in every other respect. That is exactly what Trump has done in eastern Syria.

Actually it goes further than that, the reason Trump and Erdogan were even on the phone was that the Pentagon had been trying to appease the Turks with a sort of demilitarized zone on the Syrian side of the border that Kurdish militias would pull back from and dismantle their fortifications and tunnels behind them. As part of joint US-Turkish military patrols the Turks would then have the right to continue to verify that Kurdish fighters are staying out.

This was already problematic as it entailed a foreign occupying power inviting in yet another foreign occupier, but at least there were some kind of limits on the Turks. Which is why the Turks were howling it was not enough and were ringing Trump, but they were nonetheless going with it for now as any concession is better than none. Kurds too were going along with it, and had withdrawn, and had — more crucially — on the way out destroyed the defensive positions they had previously occupied and prepared as the Americans asked them to.

It is in this moment that Trump then gave up on the whole US-Turkish “safe zone” idea, called the negotiations off, and untied Turkish hands. What a son of a bitch! What a backstabb! This is how reckless, callous, uninformed, ignorant, stupid and just plain bad person this dude is. At the very least if he was going to remove US troops from the Turkish border, and Turkish border alone, he should have done it a month earlier.

Now I don’t think this was some elaborate scheme by Trump to make sure he screws the Kurds extra hard, but then so what? Does the fact it was borne out of stupidity and lack of will to properly inform himself about anything make it any better?

Love the treason, but hate the traitor

And for the record I don’t think this will buy the US much gratitude in Ankara, or help put damaged American-Turkish relations on a friendlier, more respectful footing. Firstly the Turks will notice the entire establishment except Trump was against them, and more than anything they will notice how trecherous the US can be. Today the Kurds, yesterday (since 2003) the Turks, perhaps tomorrow again the Turks.

In fact as soon as Trump announced the withdrawal, the Pentagon — while it still could — dispatched a small aid convoy from Iraq to the Kurdish YPG militias just to show where the heart of the officers who have helped train and equip them still lays:

Turkish outlet Ahval last week:

Turkish, U.S. troops inspect removed fortifications in northeast Syria

Turkish troops inspected the progress of removing Kurdish fortifications in northern Syria in their third joint ground patrol with U.S. soldiers in a planned safe zone on Friday, the U.S Special Operation Joint Task Force said on Twitter.

Turkey and the United States agreed in August to establish a safe zone in northeast Syria. Turkey sees the plan as a safeguard against what it sees as threats to its national security posed by Kurdish-led groups that control northeast Syria, but the two countries have not agreed on the size of the zone and who will control it.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Tuesday that Turkey was ready to take its own measures in northern Syria due to what he said was unsatisfactory progress in efforts to push back the Kurdish militias and establish the safe zone.

“U.S. Forces provide the Turkish military with the opportunity to view the progress of fortification removal during a patrol Oct. 4 in northeast Syria. Verification is critical to ensure we are addressing security concerns in the security mechanism zone,” the U.S Special Operation Joint Task Force said alongside photographs of Turkish and U.S. troops near what appeared to be the border fence.

The Turkish Defence Ministry said on Twitter earlier on Friday that the third U.S.-Turkish ground patrol was carried out east of the Syrian town of Tel Abyad with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles.

The first joint ground patrol of Turkish and U.S. troops took place on Sept. 9.

In a phone call with his U.S. counterpart Marl Esper on Thursday, Turkish Defence Minister Hulusi Akar reiterated Turkey’s demand to establish a 30-km deep safe zone in northeast Syria and said Turkey would end joint efforts if it saw delays and any stalling of the plans, according to a readout on the Turkish Defence Ministry’s website.

The minister said Turkey expected the United States to end its support for the Syrian Democratic Forces and its affiliate, the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG) in Syria, which form the backbone of U.S.-led coalition forces that largely defeated Islamic State. Turkey sees the YPG as an offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which has been fighting for Kurdish autonomy in Turkey for more than three decades.


  1. Genghis Gobi says

    As though the Kurds are innocents. They’re worse backstabbers than the Amerikastanis. Their entire history is one of treason and turning coat and betrayal. They deserve what they get.

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  2. Mary E says

    Well, this article clarifies our suspicions: the Pentagon’s wishes came true with Trumps middle of the night phone call saying all US troops would scatter and turn tail from the area it was defending in cooperation with the Kurds….we all knew it wasn’t that ignoramus Trump’s idea…it had to come from ABOVE, the supreme leader of the US: The Pentagon! Now that is cleared up, is this all because Turkey bought Russias S400 system?? And not the F-35s, but went with the SU 35’s?!?!? We’ll wait and see what transpires…..and leaks out, but this could be the real reason for the scampering of US troops in the opposite direction…

    1. Gonzogal says

      “is this all because Turkey bought Russias S400 System?”

      According to Lindsey Graham…yes

      Turkey has been planning this military action for a long time and its no doubt a reason he insisted on purchasing the S400 as protection against NATO etc reaction.

    1. Marko Marjanović says

      Actually Israel is pro-Kurdish and pro-Rojava.

      1. John C Carleton says

        There is no Israhell, only Occupied Palestine.

        Israhell is an occupying Red Shield dragon military outpost and crime cabal EXTENSION OF THE RAT RUN old slave, drug running, evil wars for profit starting Dutch East India Company, moved to the CITY OF LONDON, rebranded the British Empire.

        And don’t get me upset trying for The ROYAL Blue Blooded Big Lizard’s leg.

    2. Mary E says

      Yes, he is~in his infinite wisdom and intelligence! He is on earth for Israel’s benefit

  3. CHUCKMAN says

    Nice little summary of Trump’s blundering incompetence.

    It has been a rather bizarre ride.

    1. Mary E says

      And the US (Pentagon) knows this!!! Why do we see the US going downhill by the day… attempt at infrastructure maintenance, letting the environment to go hell in a hand basket by continually fracking and opening up more areas all the time~ YES, the US is drying up and blowing away…and we are witnesses to it..

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