The UK will supply Kiev with anti-ship missiles to potentially use against the Russian Navy in the Black Sea, Ukraine’s envoy to Britain, Vadim Pristayko, said in an interview with Novoye Radio on Tuesday. The official did not specify what munitions London is sending, nor the date they are set to arrive in Ukraine.
“For the first time, our armed forces, the Navy in particular, will receive real weapons, missiles that will finally enable us to have something against the Russians in the Black and Azov Seas,” the diplomat said.
The upcoming delivery of anti-ship missiles apparently falls under the £1.7 billion ($2.3 billion) deal, reached by London and Kiev last year. Under the agreement, the UK provides Ukraine with a loan, which Kiev has to pay back within 10 years, with the funds set to be spent on navy-related military hardware supplied by Britain. According to Pristayko, the equipment includes two minesweepers that are currently being “refitted” at a dockyard in Scotland, as well as other hardware.
“Our armed forces had never received such serious funds from abroad for their development,” the diplomat said.
UK to Arm Ukraine With Anti-ship Missiles Against Russia – Kiev’s EnvoyThe UK has been among the top arms suppliers of Ukraine, sending in a large cache of NLAW shoulder-fired anti-tank missiles back in January, as well as deploying additional military instructors to teach Ukrainian forces to operate the systems.
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba on Monday revealed the scale of foreign military aid Ukraine has already received.
“Ukraine has gotten more international political and economic support, as well as security,” the top diplomat said. “Over these weeks and months, we have received more than $1.5 billion, and more than 1,000 tons of arms and armaments.”
Source: RT
The official did not specify what munitions London is sending, ??
Not hard to guess ?/ They will send some Exocet missiles ??
https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/HMS-Sheffield-Falklands-war-exocet-1014×487.jpg
Does a good job IMO ??
The Exocets were a good product for their day. It’s a shame Argentina’s stocks of them were so limited.
But that was quite some time ago now. If anyone still has any, while they might be effective against Western targets, I suspect they’d be hard pressed against current Russian countermeasures. The Syrian experience with Tomahawks comes to mind.
Ah, so you two are against the principle of a people’s right of self-determination, as exercised by the people of Crimea, and as is being attempted by the people of Donbass? As the Falklanders had and have no wish to become Argentinean (no less than 90.49% of their electorate—not just those voting but of the islands’ entire electorate—voted to remain British in last sovereignty referendum). But you two would override the Falklanders’ wishes and consign them to rule by a military dictatorship notorious for mass torture and murdering even nuns—that’s the way you two roll. Okay.
btw, Thatcher (British PM at time of Falklands conflict) would not have been interested in resurrecting the Cold War, and having gotten on well with Gorbachev, were she still in charge she would likely have gotten on well with Putin too. She was certainly far from being ‘Woke’ and her views were far closer to Putin’s than USG’s/Biden’s.
How twisted to cheer on military juntas.
That seems like a pretty tenuous allegation to make based on the comments in question.
It appears you have a bug up your arse.
As regards the war over the Malvinas Islands, the legitimacy of the competing claims is open to conjecture. The motivations driving each side in that conflict were patently political – in other words, the “right war” for the wrong reasons in both cases.
And let’s be clear, truth is the first casualty of any war. While Thatcher was trumpeting the beastiality of the Argentine forces using napalm against “our boys”, not a whisper of the fact that “our boys” were dropping phophorous munitions and cluster bombs on the Argentinians – both banned by UN conventions.
Yes, yes, all very tribal – but the diggers on the ground just follow orders and try not to get killed. The common folk are expendable in games of Empire, after all.
Try arguing about juntas to the horribly maimed and wounded British soldiers who were cast aside, hidden from public view and ignored by the Thatcher regime after the end of that conflict. They might have their own views on such matters.
Well, if it isn’t the Galtieri fan club—back for more?
UtB: ‘That seems like a pretty tenuous allegation to make’ Not even slightly—you deny the Falklanders’ wishes to remain British; thus, painfully obviously, you don’t believe in the right of a people to self-determination. QED.
UtB: ‘It appears you have a bug up your arse’ Writes the sad little obsessive crying about a 40 year old defeat.
UtB: ‘Malvinas Islands’ Got the name wrong, m8, they’re called the ‘Falkland Islands’. (And in español it’s ‘Islas Malvinas’—can you get anything right? At all?)
UtB: ‘truth is the first casualty of any war’ Nope, truth is the first casualty only of tedious Anglophobes who can’t get over all we’ve contributed to the world and will never let a fact get in the way of their anti-British propaganda.
UtB: ‘banned by UN conventions’ Wrong again: incendiary weapons are only prohibited by the LOAC against civilians; troops enjoy no protection. Cluster munitions were only prohibited in 2008—26 years after the conflict ended. Also, LOAC only applies to signatories—as Argentina has yet to agree to the latter, should it kick off again, we can legitimately employ cluster munitions if we still have any lying around.
In fact, so scrupulous was Britain’s observance of the LOAC during the Falklands conflict, a field hospital that conditions required siting next to ammo dumps was left unmarked (i.e. the protection of the Red Cross was not sought). The hospital did get hit by bombs, killing 5 and wounding 27—but Britain did not run around claiming Dastardly Argies were attacking hospitals. We took it on the chin.
UtB: ‘the horribly maimed and wounded British soldiers who were cast aside’ Don’t pretend that you give a single damn about British soldiers when you’ve just been cheering on their deaths and wishing there had been more at the hands of your precious nun-murdering military junta. (btw, you are using the ‘argumentum ad misericordiam’ logical fallacy—and logical fallacies are the tools of propagandists and the ignorant.)
UtB: ‘hidden from public view’ Getting book and film deals doesn’t sound very hidden—and Simon Weston must be one of the most famous Britons of the 20th Century. ‘Hidden’? What colour is the sky in your world?
Interesting. Both Galtieri and Thatcher are long dead. Unsurprisingly, in the original topically relevant exchange in this particular thread, no-one actually mentioned either Galtieri or Thatcher.
But then, also now unsurprisingly, you did.
Seems to me you have a really big bug up your arse.
You seem to forget that the Falklanders are descendants of the imperial invasion and not indigenous whatsoever.I
Sometimes it’s just about the land.
if its the sea eagles pictured above then its just old junk. they were designed in 1976 and based on an even older design. UK iis just palming off all its old ordnance on Ukraine, has been for years, probably charging the Ukies for it too. It would take time to integrate all this junk into Ukie armed forces and they would have to be trained to use it. I doubt it could be used if a war breaks out anytime soon. There is an air to ground version but in any war with Russia air space will be shut down and completely controlled by Russian military, so again this stuff is useless.
Thanks for that assessment. It kind of lends weight to Mr. Reynard’s tongue-in-cheek suggestion – obsolete munitions for a potentially very lopsided conflict.
Can’t find any reliable data on exactly what kit we’re sending; but you’re pretty much right, it’s all about the bucks (which HMG desperately needs after Bojo drove the economy off the cliff in 2020).
Interesting article here speculating about HMG’s motives for their posturing: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/01/27/whats-behind-britains-aggressive-posture-against-russia/
It’s all likely just diplomatic games—but HMG are not composed of the statesmen we had in the 19th century when we were playing the Great Game; imbeciles that they are, they’re like a toddler playing with a loaded .45—there is such potential for it all to go horribly wrong.
Yeah, only Germany would send 40+ year old junk..strelas
Where did they grow you?
The UK is like all supermarkets. Products with damaged packaging, nearing or passed sell by date sold at discount prices. Buyers see it as bargin regardless if their puchase has any usabillity.
Amazing how many billions of dollars/euros of weapons, Britain has to offer a broke country like Ukraine. Obviously, the EU, IMF and World banks are printing as many Euros as the Federal Reserve is printing dollars. Trillions are being printed and used for Wars and none of the Sheep seem to notice that all this extra cash would revive their countries – domestically.
Actually GPB, but true otherwise…Covid 19 was just the bio-weapon to start things off….that is slowed the U.K, EU and USA more than a super Organized China is poor planning on the part of those regions ( outside of killing pensioners). The electronic 1 and 0’s will be couched as loans ( with interest) and entered into the ledger as an asset rather than a liability. Much like Subprime mortgages before 2008.
In the mean time China as a backstop for Russia has pretty much sanctioned proofed Russia in the long run. Both sides are playing for time to position themselves, but time is running out.
The bio weapon is the vaccines.
I didn’t know UK had anti-ship missiles ?
Google the many images of Boris with Lord Jacob R through the years. Lord R has no interest in the starving or homeless. His only interest is the last riches left on earth that can be stolen thru NGO’s of Schwartz György (Soros), or leader assassination or war. The rest of the British upper class are only that because of a thousand years of Norman/banker inbreeding and financing and those in government are the same. They are not Brits, Anglos, or pre Norman conquest and don’t care about true Brits or Anglo Saxon descendants starving homeless. They have spent the world’s wealth and need more. Russia has the only wealth they don’t own.